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I have read many people suggest that the Jews and Christians in these regions did not convert in significant numbers, but were slaughtered by Southern Arabs during the early expansion of Islam. This seems to contradict the DNA evidence developed by Jewish geneticists in major western and Israeli universities: Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim in 2000 matched historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[70][71] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously Christianized and later largely Islamized, then both ... View All

I have read many people suggest that the Jews and Christians in these regions did not convert in significant numbers, but were slaughtered by Southern Arabs during the early expansion of Islam. This seems to contradict the DNA evidence developed by Jewish geneticists in major western and Israeli universities: Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim in 2000 matched historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[70][71] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously Christianized and later largely Islamized, then both ultimately becoming culturally Arabized.[72] Referring to those of the Muslim faith more specifically, it reaffirmed that Palestinian "Muslim Arabs are descended from Christians and Jews who lived in the southern Levant, a region that includes Israel, Sinai and part of Jordan." Geneticist Michael Hammer praised "the study for 'focusing in detail on the Jewish and Palestinian populations.'" [73] The study proposes that: ...More than 70% of Jewish men and half of the Arab men whose DNA was studied inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors who lived in the region within the last few thousand years...found that the Y chromosome in Middle Eastern Arabs was almost indistinguishable from that of Jews.[74] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people What do you think? Screw Wiki and all the weak minded that think it's a good source. Ever heard of Noah? Did you know he had sons? Ever heard of Issac and Ishmael? Yes they are all semites. So what? .. J2: They may all be semites but the DNA of Southern Arabs and Jews and Christians in the Levant is different. The Muslims in Southern Levant resemble the Jews and Christians more than Southern Arabs. jd: Ever heard of Issac and Ishmael? Yes they are all semites. So what? J2: Ever heard of Cohanim among Jews? Nearly 90 percent of them are descendants of one man known as J. Cohanim are suppose to be descendants of the first high priest, Aaron- brother of Moses. Aaron and Moses were sons of Amram. Amram was a descendant of Joseph thru Levi. Joseph is the son of Isaac. So yes I have heard of Isaac & his bro. Ishmael. Have you heard that ind. Cohanim are more closely related to some Palestinians than to each other? Furthermore, Southern Arabs are 80% J1. Jews and Leb Christians 15%-25% J1. So, Pal & Leb Muslims should be 80% J1 if they were Southern Arabs. However, they are 35% J1 i.e 10% Southern Arab 90% native Jew and Christian converts So yes, I have heard of Isaac and Ishmael. However, either Jews & Christians are Ishmaelites or Leb and Palestinian Muslims Israelite, but neither is one that the other is not. Have you heard of that? LOL. Azzie: People in this spot used to worship idols they made, when God sent Moses some of them became jews others kept worshiping idols, them God sent Jesus and lot of them became Christians, others remaind Jews, and the rest kept worshiping idols, finally God sent Mohammed, therefore most of them became muslims, some remaind Christians and Jews, but none worshiped idols anymore. according to Islam, muslims, christians and jews must live peacefully with eachothers, but must fight who worship idols if they refuse to convert to any of the 3 heavenly religions J2: Palestine and Lebanon were a part of the Eastern Roman Christian Empire, ruled by Emperor Heraclius when Islam started spreading out of Southern Arabia. The idol worshippers lived outside the Christian Empire in places like Saudi Arabian desert, because the Christian Empire had bans on other religions. Close All

Why do the Palestinians fight over land that has never existed in history? I will give a quick summary of the history of the land. *Ancient Israel* In around 1025 BCE, the tribes of Israel united to form the United Kingdom of Israel. Saul was the first king of the Israelites, supposedly in 1020 BCE, but it was his successor, David who in 1006 BCE created a strong unified Israelite monarchy. David, the second King of Israel, established Jerusalem as its national capital 3,000 years ago. Before then, Hebron had been the capital of David's Judah and Mahanaim ... View All

Why do the Palestinians fight over land that has never existed in history? I will give a quick summary of the history of the land. *Ancient Israel* In around 1025 BCE, the tribes of Israel united to form the United Kingdom of Israel. Saul was the first king of the Israelites, supposedly in 1020 BCE, but it was his successor, David who in 1006 BCE created a strong unified Israelite monarchy. David, the second King of Israel, established Jerusalem as its national capital 3,000 years ago. Before then, Hebron had been the capital of David's Judah and Mahanaim of Ish-bosheth's Israel, and before that Gibeah had been the capital of the United Monarchy under Saul. Earlier, Shiloh had been capital of the United Monarchy. David succeeded in truly unifying the Israelite tribes, and set up a monarchical government. He embarked on successful military campaigns against Israel's enemies, and defeated bitter foes such as the Philistines, thus creating secure borders for Israel. Under King David, Israel grew into a regional power. Under the House of David, the United Kingdom of Israel and Judah achieved prosperity and superiority over its neighbours. *The Judea Province being renamed to "Syria Palaestina"* Iudaea was a Roman province that extended over the region of Judea proper, later renamed Palestine. It was named in reference to the ancient Kingdom of Judah of the 6th century BCE, which had subsequently been conquered by Babylonia, the Persian Empire, Alexander the Great, and contested by the Seleucid and Ptolemaic Empires in the six Syrian Wars of the 2nd century BCE. The majority of the population, and their local rulers, remained Jewish until after Bar Kokhba's revolt when Jews were excluded from Jerusalem (renamed Aelia Capitolina), except for Tisha B'Av. Iudaea was the stage of three major rebellions against the Romans. In 135 CE, the victory in Bar Kokhba's revolt by Hadrian resulted in 580,000 Jews killed and destabilization of the region's Jewish population. The Romans renamed the new territory as Syria Palaestina (Syria Palestine) to humiliate the Jewish population by attempting to erase their historical ties to the region. Jerusalem is re-established as the Roman military colony of Aelia Capitolina; a largely unsuccessful attempt is made to prevent Jews from living there and large numbers of prisoners of war are sold as slaves throughout the Empire. After the Roman empire fell in around 476 AD, some 340 years after the Romans renamed the Iudaea Province to Syria Palaestina, the name "Palestine" and Syria stayed. *The Islamic Conquest of "Palestine" (Israel and Judea)* During the Islamic conquest of the Levant in the 7th century, as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper in to Palestine, Baisan surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tabariya in February 635. Caliph Umar, after getting the intelligence of disposition and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to corps commanders in Palestine and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. The corps of Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison in Ajnadyn and defeated them in the 2nd Battle of Ajnadyn after which the two corps separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil thrust against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Jabail and Beirut. By 635 A.D, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslims hands. On the orders of Caliph Umar, Yazid next besieged to Caesarea, which was lifted but resumed after the Battle of Yarmouk until the port fell in 640. During this time, Muslims forced the people in Palestine, Jordan and Syria to convert to Islam. *Ottoman Turks Occupation of "Palestine" (Israel and Judea)* In 1516 the Ottoman Turks occupied Palestine. The country became part of the Ottoman Empire. Constantinople appointed local governors. Public works, including the city walls, were rebuilt in Jerusalem by Suleiman the Magnificent in 1537. An area around Tiberias was given to Don Joseph HaNasi for a Jewish enclave. Following the expulsions from Spain, the Jewish population of Palestine rose to around 25% (includes non-Ottoman citizens, excludes Bedouin) and regained its former stronghold of Eastern Galilee. That ended in 1660 when they were massacred at Safed and Jerusalem. During the reign of Dahar al Omar, Pasha of the Galilee, Jews from Ukraine began to resettle Tiberias. Napoleon of France briefly waged war against the Ottoman Empire (allied then with Great Britain). His forces conquered and occupied cities in Palestine, but they were finally defeated and driven out by 1801. In 1799 Napoleon announced a plan to re-establish a Jewish State in Palestine which was mostly to curry favour with Haim Farkhi the Jewish finance minister and adviser to the Pasha of Syria/Palestine. He was later assassinated and his brothers formed an army with Ottoman permission to conquer the Galilee. Turkish rule lasted until World War I. Jewish immigration to Palestine, particularly to the "four sacred cities" (Jerusalem, Safed, Tiberias and Hebron) which already had significant Jewish communities, increased particularly towards the end of Ottoman rule; Jews of European origin lived mostly on charity while many Sephardic Jews found themselves a trade. Many Circassians and Bosnian Muslims were settled in the north of Palestine by the Ottomans in the early 19th Century. In the 1830s Egypt conquered Palestine and many Egyptians soldiers settled there. In 1838 Palestine was given back to the Turks. However, with the advent of early Zionism, just prior to the outbreak of World War I in 1914, the Jews had become a small majority in the central Judea region. Many were not Ottoman citizens and were expelled to Egypt at the time that war was declared. *British Mandate of "Palestine" (Israel and Judea)* The rise of Zionism, the national movement of the Jewish people started in Europe and Russia in the 19th century seeking to create a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, the ancient Jewish homeland. By 1920, the Jewish population of Palestine had reached 11% of the population. In World War I, Turkey sided with Germany. As a result, it was embroiled in a conflict with Great Britain, leading to the British capture of Palestine in a series of battles led by General Allenby. Allenby dismounted from his horse when he entered captured Jerusalem as a mark of respect for the Holy City. He was greeted by the Christian, Jewish, and Islamic leaders of the city with great honor. At the subsequent 1919 Paris Peace Conference and Treaty of Versailles, Turkey's loss of its Middle East empire was formalized. The British had in the interim made two agreements. In the Hussein-McMahon Correspondence there was an undertaking to form an Arab state in exchange for the Great Arab Revolt and in the Balfour Declaration in 1917 to "favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people" while respecting the rights of existing non-Jewish communities". These were not necessarily contradictory. The Faisal-Weizmann Agreement of the same epoch declared the compatibility of Jewish and Arab nationalist aspirations. So tell me, if Palestine never existed, why fight over it? There is also scientific proof that the majority of Palestinians are descendents of Jews that were forced to convert to Islam during the Islamic conquest of "Palestine". http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:jGV2MknuXDYJ:www.ias.ac.in/jgenet/Vol80No3/125.pdf+High-resolution+Y+chromosome+haplotypes+of+Israeli+and+Palestinian&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&client=firefox-a Close All

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